Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!miamiu!jahayes From: JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET (Josh Hayes) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: emergent properties Message-ID: <90290.101921JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET> Date: 17 Oct 90 15:19:21 GMT References: <60045@bbn.BBN.COM> Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service Lines: 24 Let me toss in a quick comment wrt emergent properties in the ecological realm. There has been some debate over the nature of ecosystems and ecological communities, whether they exhibit properties characterizable as "emergent". The point of THAT debate, and perhaps of this one as well, is to vitiate the reductionist approach: if there is some property of the "system" which cannot be ascribed to any particular sub- portion of the system, then the traditional approach of taking it into its component parts will be unable to address that par- ticular property. For example, if the putative emergent property we are interested in is consciousness, it may well emerge not simply from the various brain regions/neural nodes/ganglia/etc., but from them and the way they are themselves constructed and interlaced. Consciousness could easily not RESIDE in any one location, but be a consequence of the overall structure. There can be some minimum configuration that exhibits the property of interest, and examination of smaller selections will be of little or no value. -------- Josh Hayes, Zoology Dept, Miami University, Oxford OH 45056 jahayes@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu, jahayes@miamiu.bitnet Disclaimer: I'm a marine biologist, not a neuro-type. Just interested.