Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!decwrl!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: gillett@ceomax.enet.dec.com (Christopher Gillett) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: COCOT-in-Violation Label File Message-ID: <13482@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 11 Oct 90 17:52:53 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 86 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 731, Message 7 of 10 In article <13145@accuvax.nwu.edu> Tad Cook writes: >Maybe you could dial 9-1-1 and say "oops ... wrong number!", or maybe >"Telephone Man! Just checking the line!". >[Moderator's Note: I do not encourage you to imposter an employee of >the telephone company 'just checking the line'. If you must call, just >say you are checking to see if 911 is permitted on the line, and >vacate quickly. But, see earlier replies in this thread. Given the As an individual who has worked as a volunteer to various emergency services organizations (fire dept and civil defense), I must strenuously object to the practices described by Tad and PAT. 911, and other emergency services numbers, are for emergencies ONLY and should never be called unless there is truly a crisis. In many areas, dialing 911 (or the equivalent) when there is not actually an emergency is illegal. And while the chance that an unnecessary call will foul something up, or slow something down are admittedly remote, why take the chance? Also, many dispatch outfits will roll at least a police car if they suspect "something fishy" (like maybe somebody trying to attract the attention of the police without giving away that they are actually calling them. Yup, that sounds like something out of James Bond, but it's happened before and probably will again). Why risk a patrol officers life by making him or her drive to a pay phone (at a higher than usual rate of speed), just because you decided to play "wrong number" games with the dispatcher. I consider erroneous calls to 911 nearly as bad as pulling an alarm box just for fun. It's unnecessary, wasteful of resources, dangerous for the ES people, and potentially very costly. I understand the frustration with COCOTs, and I've had unpleasant encounters with several in my travels. But, as much as they are a hassle, my feeling is that they should never, ever be disabled, or made to appear as though they are not in service simply because they don't meet regulatory specs, or because they charge lots 'o dollars to use them. If there's an emergency and I find a COCOT, I don't care if it costs a quarter, or even a dollar, so long as I can get somebody to help by reaching 911, or an operator, or even somebody else who can call for help for me. Let's look at this from a different angle. Suppose, for a moment, that one of you overzealous, frustrated, wanna-be-regulators slaps a sticker over a working COCOT because it won't let you dial until you stick in a quarter. Some unfortunate soul runs up to it to call 911 to report the massive coronary he just witnessed taking place. This fellow sees the out of order sign, and since he doesn't have time to read all the fine print, goes off in search of another phone. And let's just suppose that this fine out of order sign means that it takes an extra two minutes to get the EMTs rolling. If the stricken individual died, and a relative found out that a delayed response contributed substantially to his demise, *and* found out that the delay was caused by one of these phony Out of Order stickers, then the relative would be right to track the lot of you down and sue all of you,as well as the COCOT operator, and anybody else involved. (I can see a sharp rattlesnake bringing suit against anybody acknowledging participation in this "stickering" by alleging some sort of "conspiracy". It probably wouldn't stand up in court, but it could well make your life miserable, cost you a bunch for your own rattlesnake, and net the plaintiff's attorney a ton of free publicity), Yes, COCOTs are a pain. Yes, many do not meet regulatory specification. Yes, something should be done about it. If you want to sticker the phone, then make up a polite sticker, designed to get attention, that doesn't block the coin slot or render the phone totally inoperative. The sticker should ask the reader to not use this telephone and give reasons why. That way, when Joe Passerby wants to call home to say he'll be late for dinner, he might think twice before using the phone. But when urgent help is needed, there's at least a chance that somebody will make the damned thing work enough to get assistance. Just my $0.02 (well, ok $0.50). Usually lurking, Christopher Gillett gillett@ceomax.enet.dec.com Digital Equipment Corporation Hudson, Taxachusetts (508) 568-7172 Semiconductor Engineering Group/Logic Simulation Group Disclaimer: Ken Olsen speaks for Digital...I speak for me!