Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ogicse!mintaka!think.com!eplunix!raoul From: raoul@eplunix.UUCP (Nico Garcia) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: DSP Hearing Aids? Message-ID: <952@eplunix.UUCP> Date: 17 Oct 90 15:08:32 GMT References: <1990Oct16.163935.1954@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <33682@nigel.ee.udel.edu> Organization: Eaton-Peabody Lab, Boston, MA Lines: 34 In article <33682@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, bunnell@udel.edu (H Timothy Bunnell) writes: > In article <1990Oct16.163935.1954@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sinistar@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff O'Hare) writes: > >Hi. I was wondering if anyone has heard of any dsp hearing aids. I was think- Hmmm. Why build a switched capacitor filter, or fancy processing for gain stage controls, etc., when straight forward analog ciruits will do the job efficiently and compactly? It's only audio range signals anyway, but it needs to be handled in real-time. Why ask for design sophistication when you don't need it? I also had a fascinating conversation with an audiologist here about different compression schemes. I won't go into details since I'm an EE, not an audiologist, but one scheme that works surprisingly well is clipping: map a 60 dB range speech signal into a 30 dB comfortable range for the subject by clipping the upper 30 dB right off. Some guy called Lickliter documented this technique in the 40's, and found that as long as the frequencies, relative intensity of them, and timing information was preserved, speech was still comprehensible. What it does to music, you don't even want to think about! I believe that more effective processing for speech enhancement will be based on what humans actually do, rather than what our mathematical analyses insist is most efficient or powerful. I'm not certain, however, that we understand enough of how people *hear* and process sound to approach speech enhancement from the speech production side. Note: this is my personal opinion as an educated EE, not as an audiological expert of some sort. -- Nico Garcia Designs by Geniuses for use by Idiots eplunix!cirl!raoul@eddie.mit.edu