Xref: utzoo alt.folklore.computers:6188 comp.misc:10357 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!bu.edu!shelby!eos!eugene From: eugene@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Eugene Miya) Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.misc Subject: Re: Internet: The origins Message-ID: <7449@eos.arc.nasa.gov> Date: 16 Oct 90 17:56:02 GMT References: <1990Oct14.055739.7971@nmt.edu> Reply-To: eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers Distribution: na Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Calif. Lines: 63 In article <1990Oct14.055739.7971@nmt.edu> pefsnsr@jupiter.nmt.edu (Paul Ford) writes: > (1) when was Internet created and by whom? > >and, (2) what was the oiginal intended purpose of the network? No one answered the question. (The answer being 42). Well, it kind of depends on how you regard its origins (Official: early 1980s or when many pieces were in place). Far better experts are out there than me. It sort of began before the ARPAnet. You can read a couple of good papers in Sieworiek, Bell, and Newell's old book on computer architecture on the ARPAnet and Kuo's ALOHAnet (U. Hawaii). It was an effort to connect different kinds of computers together back when a school or company had only one (that's 1) computer. The first configuration of the ARPAnet had only 4 computers, I had luckily selected school at one of those 4 sites: UCLA/Rand Corp, UCSB (us), SRI, and the U of Utah. Who? The US DOD: Defense Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency. ARPA was the sugar daddy of computer science. Some very bright people were given some money, freedom, and had a lot of vision. It not only started computer networks, but also computer graphics, computer flight simulation, head mounted displays, parallel processing, queuing models, VLSI, and a host of other ideas. Far from being evil warmongers, some neat work was done. Why? Lots of reasons: intellectual curosity, the need to have different machines communicate, study fault tolerance of communications systems in event of nuclear war, share and connect expensive resources, very soft ideas to very hard ideas. I wish some of the audio ideas had gone further, VMS phone and Unix talk are kinda stupid, your terminal or workstation should do audio (like a NeXT or an Etherphone). [You get into areas where society isn't ready for computers here: poltiical or social structure.] I first saw the term "internetwork" in paper by folk from Xerox PARC (another ARPAnet host). The issue was one of interconnecting Ethernets (which had the ~256 [slightly less] host limitation). Schoch's CACM worm program paper is a good one. I learned much of this with the help of the NIC (Network Information Center). This does not mean the Internet is like this today. I think the early ARPAnet was kind of a wonderous neat place, sort of a golden era. You could get into other people's machines with a minimum of hassle (someone else paid the bills). No more. There were commercial developments: IBM had some stuff, but they had fairly homogeneous machines (DEC, too), then there is Telenet [GTE] and Tymnet [McD-D], and other services. --e.n. miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@eos.arc.nasa.gov {uunet,mailrus,most gateways}!ames!eugene Where did I fit in? I was a frosh nuclear engineering major hacker (2 AM-4 AM, some times on Fridays and weekends rather than doing student things: studying or dating, etc.) who was learning rather than implementing things (well I did do an interactive SPSS and learned a lot playing chess on an MIT[-MC] DEC-10 from an IBM-360). Think of the problems: 32-bit versus 36-bit, different character set [remember I started with EBCDIC], FTP then is largely FTP now, has changed very little. We didn't have text editors available to students on the IBM (yes you could use the ARPAnet via card decks). Learned a lot. I wish I had hacked more.