Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!math.lsa.umich.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!emv From: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: connect: Network is unreachable, (or) I want my FTP Message-ID: Date: 13 Oct 90 03:44:02 GMT Sender: usenet@math.lsa.umich.edu Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept., Ann Arbor MI. Lines: 33 From: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) My site gets a feed of the sub.* and dnet.* newsgroups, which are in German. There is a fair amount of interesting stuff discussed in these groups, and it's a good way to put that high school German to practice. More to the point, there is a fair amount of software developed in Germany which is made available for anonymous FTP, that is to say stuff available there and nowhere else. So, when I see in sub.tex that there's an interesting set of TeX macros to be had from "forwiss.uni-passau.de", my first inclination is to go and take a look and get them. And the last thing that I want to see is "Network is unreachable" with the traceroute stopping at my local NSS. It is extremely frustrating, that I can learn about European internet resources via Usenet, but when I go to connect to the the NSF backbone blocks my access. Do any of the USA "commercial" internet service providers provide access to the European networks which aren't permitted to use the NSF backbone? I.e., if my regional network were to get say an Alternet or PSI connection they could receive the Euro-routes that way and there would be access. Or perhaps my regional already has a transatlantic link, and they could bypass the backbone that way? One way or another there has to be a legit way to be "part of" the Euro-internet and not get blockaded by the NSF. --Ed Edward Vielmetti, U of Michigan math dept moderator, comp.archives ps. forwiss.uni-passau.de [132.231.1.10], in /archive/tex/macros/nice20.zoo. "Jetzt hoffe ich, dass das Makropaket einen groesseren Kreis von Anwendern findet."