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From: nipper@i32fs2.ira.uka.de (Arnold Nipper)
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Subject: Re: connect: Network is unreachable, (or) I want my FTP
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Date: 13 Oct 90 14:22:55 GMT
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In article <EMV.90Oct12224402@josephus.math.lsa.umich.edu> emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
>From: emv@math.lsa.umich.edu (Edward Vielmetti)
>
>My site gets a feed of the sub.* and dnet.* newsgroups, which are in
>German.  There is a fair amount of interesting stuff discussed in
>these groups, and it's a good way to put that high school German to
>practice.  More to the point, there is a fair amount of software
>developed in Germany which is made available for anonymous FTP, that
>is to say stuff available there and nowhere else.
>
>So, when I see in sub.tex that there's an interesting set of TeX
>macros to be had from "forwiss.uni-passau.de", my first inclination is
>to go and take a look and get them.  And the last thing that I want to
>see is "Network is unreachable" with the traceroute stopping at my
>local NSS.  It is extremely frustrating, that I can learn about
>European internet resources via Usenet, but when I go to connect to
>the the NSF backbone blocks my access.

That's not the right point of view. Obviously U Passau does not want
to have access to the Internet. There are at least four access points
to the Internet in Germany ( via EASInet, DFN, Unido, XLINK ).

>
>Do any of the USA "commercial" internet service providers provide
>access to the European networks which aren't permitted to use the NSF
>backbone?  I.e., if my regional network were to get say an Alternet or
>PSI connection they could receive the Euro-routes that way and there
>would be access.  Or perhaps my regional already has a transatlantic

XLINK provides access to PSI net for everyone in Germany who wants. But 
of course you have to pay for services. :-)

>link, and they could bypass the backbone that way?  One way or another
>there has to be a legit way to be "part of" the Euro-internet and not
>get blockaded by the NSF.
>
>--Ed
>

Arnold
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