Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!sun!margot.Eng.Sun.COM!donm From: donm@margot.Eng.Sun.COM (Don Miller) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Development vs Engineering Summary: Test Execution is just a phase Keywords: test bridge Message-ID: <143729@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 15 Oct 90 17:21:17 GMT References: <27696@bellcore.bellcore.com> <2450009@hpfcmgw.HP.COM> <84754@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@sun.Eng.Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca. Lines: 27 In article <84754@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> William F Ogden writes: >In article <2450009@hpfcmgw.HP.COM> gt@hpfcmgw.HP.COM (George Tatge) writes: > > .... >>1. Since there can be no engineering without testing to insure that the >>product is safe and reliable, a software engineer must have access to >>test equipment and tools. > >Actually quite a bit of engineering is accomplished without testing. >You rarely see testing of a bridge or building or dam, for example. >Safety and reliability are achieved by analysis, modeling and simulation, >inspection during construction, etc. I'd say that the jury is still out >on which techniques will prove the most effective for software engineering. > >/Bill Let's distinguish between the test execution phase and the whole testing process which includes requirements and design verification as well as test execution itself. Also, I bet the first car over the bridge isn't the first of rush hour the morning after the bridge is built. :-) Don Miller Sun Microsystems, Inc. Software Quality Engineering donm@eng.sun.com