Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!fletcher From: rja7m@chaos.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ran Atkinson) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: Internationalisation Message-ID: <13523@cs.utexas.edu> Date: 12 Oct 90 14:55:22 GMT References: <13501@cs.utexas.edu> Sender: fletcher@cs.utexas.edu Reply-To: rja7m@chaos.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ran Atkinson) Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 36 Approved: fletcher@cs.utexas.edu (Guest Moderator, Fletcher Mattox) X-Submissions: std-unix@uunet.uu.net Submitted-by: rja7m@chaos.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ran Atkinson) While I am fond of Vietnamese, I'd like to suggest that it not be used in future examples of internationalisation for several reasons including the lack of a defined character set standard for Vietnamese. A number of people, including me, were trying to come up with a reasonable modification of the ISO 8859/1 standard and didn't because there are too many combinations of diacriticals and vowels for each combination to have its own 8-bit representation. The folks behind UNISTD and the ISO 32-bit character set proposal are working with Vietnamese in mind, so we might eventually have a standard, but for now we don't. Also, I think the example was erroneous. I think that the example was trying to say: "chao` ca'c o^ng" (where the diacriticals belong above the vowels not after them and there is no real space in the place where the diacritical appears above). Also, I think that the above means "Hello everyone" more nearly than "Hello World" (though its early in the day and I might well not have the nearest translation either :-) As I say, It was really nice to see Vietnamese as the example, but I think that for this newsgroup it would be more accessible to use a different language next time... Ran randall@Virginia.EDU P.S. Persons interested in Vietnamese discussions should move their postings to soc.culture.vietnamese from comp.std.unix . Volume-Number: Volume 21, Number 202