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From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
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Subject: Re: Some MAC and Amiga Comparisons. aka Marc blunders
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Date: 16 Oct 90 01:59:11 GMT
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	I post this for the sake of interested 3rd parties who
might otherwise believe the Mac Barrett price post. My
information comes from my own school's prices. It is also a
correction to a few numbers in my prior post.

In article <33538@nigel.ee.udel.edu> WHE46@ccvax.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes:
>
>    The new MAC LC (actually, it should be called the MAC IILC, because
>the only difference between this system and the original MAC II is
>the lack of a FPU) gives you a 68020 running at 20Mhz, 2M of RAM, a 40MB
>hard drive, color video, and keyboard for $2500 list.  I will build
>a similar Amiga system using an Amiga 500 as the base.  Add $300 for
>the monitor, which is included in the Amiga system I will compare it
>against.  To be fair, I will use list prices.

	Marc, the Mac price you quote repeatedly does NOT include
a monitor. Apple monitors are NOT cheap. Taking education prices:
	MAC LC				Amiga 3000/16-50
	16MHz 68020			16MHz 68030
	no math coprocessor		16MHz 68881
	40MB drive			50MB drive
	2MB ram				2MB ram
	Color video			Color video
	Apple monitor			Multisync monitor
	keyboard, etc.			keyboard, etc.
	??				option for 68040
					accelerator/cache
	??				video slot
	??				4 slots
	??				16MHz/32bit bus

	$2,500				$2,600
	(educational)			(educational)

	Building from an A500 system is stupid, especially
because the expansion is so much more expensive than on
2000s/3000 that the extra cost for the 2000/3000 is mad up. You
can clearly see that the A3000 is far better than an expanded
A500!  Clearly the Amiga is not behind. The A3000 listed above is
a much more powerful system than the LC and the difference is
only $100.
	Another thing to be considered: Apple is probably using
up its old stock of 68020 for their discontinued Mac II. Motorola
will likely end production of the 68020 soon as the price
difference with the 68030 is very small.

	Marc, sometimes you talk and make sense and other times
you just complete get caught up in emotions and don't even stop
to think.
	-- Ethan

Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

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