Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!csun!nic.csu.net!csus.edu!ucdavis!iris!zerkle From: zerkle@iris.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: CALL FOR LOCAL DISCUSSION: Split the c.s.a group more? Keywords: c.s.a, comp.sys.amiga Message-ID: <7842@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> Date: 18 Oct 90 00:37:50 GMT References: <6802@sugar.hackercorp.com> <5764@munnari.oz.au> <6814@sugar.hackercorp.com> <963@qucis.queensu.CA> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu Reply-To: zerkle@iris.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle) Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Lines: 147 Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: CALL FOR LOCAL DISCUSSION: Split the c.s.a group more? Summary: Expires: References: <6802@sugar.hackercorp.com> <5764@munnari.oz.au> <6814@sugar.hackercorp.com> <963@qucis.queensu.CA> Sender: Reply-To: zerkle@iris.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science Keywords: c.s.a, comp.sys.amiga Ok. This is what I like: comp.sys.amiga.misc Use this to replace c.s.a itself. See below for comments about c.s.a. comp.sys.amiga.games As is, so I can ignore it most of the time. comp.sys.amiga.programmer Maybe called c.s.a.prog... Then again, maybe not. comp.sys.amiga.hardware As is, keep it the same. comp.sys.amiga.app For users of applications programs that don't fit into the other categories.... Might possibly be split up more in the future if some variety of software gets discussed too much. comp.sys.amiga.trade This should be misc.forsale.computer.amiga, but somehow I don't know if that one would actually go through. It would be nice to divert the for sale and wanted messages off of the main group. This way, it would be easier when I actually am buying something to find it, too. misc.forsale.computers is too general. It's not easy to find what you are actually after, and not a whole lot of amigoids read it.... comp.sys.amiga.media For video, graphics, music, sound--outside of programming issues. If traffic in one or the other of these areas becomes to high, split up more into c.s.a.m.graphics, c.s.a.m.music, etc., etc. comp.sys.amiga.announce As proposed. Give it a moderator to make sure that blatant advertising & such isn't overdone. Followups redirected to either a new c.s.a.announce.d or to a .app or .hardware. comp.sys.amiga.review As proposed. Put only formal written up reviews of products here to evaluate pro & con. Have it moderated, just to keep people in line. Followups could be redirected to the appropriate group (.app or .hardware), or could have .review.d. The above are a good idea. The next might be one..... comp.sys.amiga.emulator The amiga emulates a lot of other systems, and there seem to be a lot of postings re this capability, but is it worth a whole newsgroup? I'd say it's worth a vote to find out. These are NOT good ideas: comp.sys.amiga.unix This should be comp...unix...amiga. And it shouldn't exist until Amiga Unix is officially released (fragment). In fact, it probably will be covered by a sysVr4 group. comp.sys.amiga.education comp.sys.amiga.graphics comp.sys.amiga.multimedia (others) There's not enough traffic to justify these. They are all important, certainly, but they should fit into the other groups well enough. If the last two in the future make traffic, they can branch off of .media (.media.multi?). comp.sys.amiga.flame comp.sys.amiga.flame.atmb comp.sys.amiga.flame.intel comp.sys.amiga.flame.next comp.sys.amiga.flame.mac comp.sys.amiga.flame.atari Unfortunately, there does seem to be enough traffic to justify each of these, but I do think that we don't need new groups. I wish instead that people could just grow up a little bit more, and not get so insecure about their (admittedly, wonderful) Amigas that they need to pick on other brands. comp.sys.amiga.futures The situation is bad enough without a formal arena for rumor-mongering! comp.sys.amiga.software Too vague a name. C.s.a.app is much more appropriate. More ideas: Don't let people post to c.s.a itself. This will force people to THINK before posting. Although it will probably wreak havok at first, it will also help solve the problem of "Sorry about this post, but I don't get c.s.a.foo". In this case, c.s.a.misc is essential. Have regular lists go out of information. These would ideally go on the now-unpostable (moderated?) c.s.a. As I mentioned earlier, they could be introductions to the area and answers to common questions, along with a little bit of local nettiquite info. Set up our own net.police. God, I hate to say it, but they actually might help. Just a couple of folks to (politely) e-mail people who cause problems by breaking whatever rules.... On the other hand, I do like anarchy, and police seem so... so....... stuffy and obnoxious. Right now, rule breakers can be... well...... flamed. Which is worse? Police would tell people that they are posting in the wrong group, posting a Commonly Asked Question (answer included), posting a flame, not cutting down the quoted text enough, or otherwise screwing up. Police would have to be someone well-versed in e-mail addressing and good manners. I volunteer to moderate a group. If I don't do that, I volunteer to maintain the list of commonly asked questions. I don't think I can bring myself to volunteer for the net.police. Final note: PLEASE vote to split the group. Even if you don't care, vote in favor so the individual directories don't explode. Did someone set an official date for the vote to start? Please start it soon. Dan Zerkle zerkle@iris.ucdavis.edu (916) 754-0240 Amiga... Because life is too short for boring computers.