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From: schmid@jellosub.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Georg Schmid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: ADUS conference news & Re: DVS and Apollo's X11R4
Message-ID: <1990Oct17.093815@jellosub.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de>
Date: 17 Oct 90 08:38:15 GMT
References: <9010111910.AA23075@mwunix.mitre.org>
Sender: zrf80385@rusux1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de
Reply-To: schmid@jellosub.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Georg Schmid)
Organization: Dept. for Statics & Dynamics of Aerospace Structures (ISD)
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In article <9010111910.AA23075@mwunix.mitre.org>,
m19451@MWUNIX.MITRE.ORG writes:
|>  - X11-R4 will not be availabe until late spring of
|>      1991, it will be offered as a PSK on top of SR10.3.
|>      X11-R4 will be NATIVE MODE ONLY, you can not share
|>      the display with the DM (Apollo Display Manager).
|>      X11-R4 will not be availabe on either the DN10000
|>      or the Desktop Visualization System (DVS).

That's ridiculous. Everybody who wants to have X11R4 on the DN10000
or DN10000VS has the possibility to get the sources of a borrow mode
server from the MIT Tape (We have it running !!). 
People at Apollo contributed to the server, so why won't HP support it
officially for the DN10000 ?
Ok, there probably has to be done lots of work (bug-fixes,
optimization)
but I think the real reason is, that HP is pushing its own
workstations.

Same for OSF: From the time when HP took over Apollo our sales-reps
kept telling us that HP was going to support the DN10000 and that 
they would port OSF to it. 

I can understand that HP isn't willing to support every DN* ever
sold, but this is TOO MUCH !!

Sorry if my words were too polite, but in school I wasn't told the
words I would have needed for this posting. I'm fed up.


-- Georg

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