Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!gatech!ncsuvx!news From: rnf@hobbes.ncsu.edu (Rick Fincher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: AppleWorksGS Terminal Emulation Message-ID: <1990Oct18.135317.29691@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> Date: 18 Oct 90 13:53:17 GMT References: <1990Oct15.172901.21548@athena.mit.edu> <11301@claris.com> <1990Oct17.190723.13839@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: news@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (USENET News System) Distribution: comp Organization: NCSU Computing Center Lines: 47 dcw@lcs.mit.edu (David C. Whitney) writes: >In article ghost@bucsf.bu.edu (Jay Adelson) writes: >> >>[Clip] >> >> >> 1. Is there any way to get the terminal to emulate a VT100 or any >> >> other standard terminal configuration? (patches or commands I >> >> missed or otherwise?) >> >>>No. There is not enough resolution on the graphics screen for readable >>>text of 23 lines. You can only get eighteen. Sorry. [stuff deleted] >The issue here is that Snowterm doesn't have a menu bar or put the >terminal in a window. Snowterm only does terminals which AWGS does >other stuff. Therefore AWGS *must* display things by the book. Once >you've lopped off the screen real estate for a menu bar and window >title bar and grow regions, you've knocked away a good deal of space. >You just can't put 24 readable lines on the screen at that point. >*That's* why there's no term emul at all. >Dave Whitney | I wrote Z-Link and BinSCII. Send me bug >Computer Science MIT 1990 | reports. I need a job. Send me an offer. >dcw@goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu | My opinions, you hear? MINE! >dcw@athena.mit.edu | "Isn't this where..." With system 5.0 you can turn the menu bar on and off. Who needs scroll bars on a VT-100 screen? You could just make the window a plain outline window (with the outline offscreen if you need those pixels) that takes up the entire screen. If you use a font that requires 9 vertical lines per line of VT-100 screen (for example) you could get 22 lines, a font using 8 lines would give 25 lines. SnowTerm used the text screen for speed, note that it does have a menu bar. SnowTerm could use the same font in a regular graphics window and work just as well, although slower. The programming wizards at Claris can squeeze the speed out that would be needed ( don't you love being volunteered for stuff by someone with great confidence in your abilities :-) !). You could toggle the scroll bar on and off to see the whole screen with a keyboard command, like HyperStudio. This can be done, the question is, will Claris take the challenge?