Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!math.lsa.umich.edu!math.lsa.umich.edu!hyc From: hyc@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: New Apple Mac rumored... Message-ID: <1990Oct15.232622.2883@math.lsa.umich.edu> Date: 15 Oct 90 23:26:22 GMT References: <1990Oct11.205554.14111@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> <4b5T8dC00Vor8OekRA@andrew.cmu.edu> <1990Oct15.212324.23704@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Sender: usenet@math.lsa.umich.edu Distribution: usa Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept., Ann Arbor Lines: 33 In article <1990Oct15.212324.23704@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: %In article <4b5T8dC00Vor8OekRA@andrew.cmu.edu> jk44+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Knight) writes: %>Apple may offer "big" discounts to students, but Apple will have to %>reduce the s*it out of its prices in order to compete with Atari or %>Amiga. With my student discount, a 1Meg, 1 disk drive SE costs about %>$1500. My 1040STe and mono monitor kick some serious ass over that Mac %>configuration. I don't know what the TT will cost, so I can't really %>compare it to the higher end Macs, but I think (hope...) it will be %>competitive. %Well, the Mac Classic is the equivalent of the system you describe %above. It will sell to students for about $1000. Add in another %$1000-1500 or so and you can have a color 68030 system with 2 meg RAM, %HD, and built-in color. You just have to supply a monitor (like the %Mac IIci). The IIci is also supposed to be discounted as well. Well... The Mac Classic doesn't give you color, stereo PCM sound, DMA, analog and digital controller inputs, etc... It really is just a repackaged SE, without the processor slot. It's hard to call that an equivalent machine, no matter how you look at it. It's an SE with expandability and upgradability removed from the design. It's a late model Mac+. The original doorstop, redone for 1990. Feh. The other two (MacToo!) machines look a little more reasonable. I wonder what's holding the TT up, the market for cheap '030 machines is about to get saturated, I think... Might as well skip this stage and hop onto the '040 bandwagon. (Heh - then they'll have an industry-accepted excuse for "vaporware" ... }-) -- -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan one million data bits stored on a chip, one million bits per chip if one of those data bits happens to flip, one million data bits stored on the chip...