Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!bu.edu!dartvax!eleazar.dartmouth.edu!stevel From: stevel@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Steve Ligett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Plus to SE/30 Message-ID: <25126@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 15 Oct 90 16:07:11 GMT References: <58220@microsoft.UUCP> Sender: news@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 51 In article <58220@microsoft.UUCP> earleh@microsoft.UUCP (Earle HORTON) writes: >What if I rip out the logic board in my Mac Plus, and stuff in an SE/30 >logic board, an ADB keyboard, and an ADB mouse? Anyone care to comment >on how this will work? > >Earle Horton It's been a year and a half since I did this to a KE. The Mac has been running fine (fast!) since. Here's my recollection of what I did: 1. Bought the SE/30 internal sheet metal piece from our shop. Otherwise it's tough to get the logic board in and out. And you won't be able to use the slot, etc. 2. Sawed out the whole I/O area in the back of the KE case so the SE/30 ports would stick out. 3. Made a cable to go from the Plus power supply to the SE/30 logic board. There are a couple of things that the cable has to do. (Most cables don't "do" anything...) I put a -5 volt regulator in the cable since the SE/30, sensibly, expects the power supply to supply power. The old Macs have a voltage regulator on the logic board. I put a one-shot in the cable to lengthen the vertical sync pulse. I think it's supposed to be about 800 microseconds. This is from memory... 4. For sound, I lengthened the cable from the speaker. My power supply had the speaker lead on a connector; many of them have it soldered on. You could put it in the cable made in #3, above. I put a lot of grounds in the cable, just like the SE/30 one has. I put a ferrite on the cable, like they have. What I thought about doing, but didn't get any farther than a drawing on, was a PC board that gloms on the Plus power supply connector, that has the SE/30-type Mini-fit Jr. connector on the other side. The PC board would do the stuff that I put in the cable, and you'd use a standard SE/30 power supply-to-logic board cable between it and the logic board. Is there a market for that, or what?? I don't remember any big problems. Cutting the slot for the ports was the hardest part. I don't know if you can get an SE/30 logic board at a reasonable price. Our shop will sell parts like that. Apple says it's ok, as long as it's for use in a Mac, and not for resale. Drop me a line for more info. Disclaimers about you being responsible go here. -- steve.ligett@dartmouth.edu or ...!dartvax!steve.ligett