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From: ph@cci632.UUCP (Pete Hoch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE/30 -> 32 bit clean ROMS?
Summary: Reasonable expectations.
Message-ID: <41010@cci632.UUCP>
Date: 18 Oct 90 19:48:44 GMT
References: <3325@orbit.cts.com> <1990Oct16.120133.15666@lth.se> <10744@goofy.Apple.COM>
Organization: Computer Consoles Inc. an STC Company, Rochester, NY
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-> pj@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Paul Jacoby) writes:
->  Now that we have the new Macs here touting 32 bit addressing (in the future
->  with our new 32 bit clean ROMs), I begin to wonder if there will
->  finally be an upgrade for this ROM SIMM thingie that sits in my SE/30.

->> sund@tde.lth.se (Lars Sundstr|m) adds:
->>  I asked about that a couple of weeks ago and I didn't get any
->>  real answer, well not from an Apple representative anyway.
->>  I think it's time for Apple to offer us that upgrade or
->>  else a lot of people including me will feel cheated. 8 megs
->>  isn't always enough.


rubin@Apple.COM (Owen R. Rubin) suggests:
>> (These are my comments and I do not speak for Apple:)
>> 
>> As I read these comments I often wonder if you people also complain to 
>> BMW and Chevrolet and Ford (etc) about upgrades to your cars?
>> 
>> "Gee, I have an 84 Vette that does not have ABS breaks. I wonder when
>> Chevrolet will offer me an upgrade kit for my Vette!!!! Its not fair!!!"
 
>> Yea, right!
 
>> -Owen-


I (Pete Hoch) also have a comment:

Owen you stupid dolt!  :-)

Actualy I would agree with you on this if it were not the the original
idea about upgrading ROMs came from Apple and not us.  When the SE/30
and IIcx were intorduced Apple made a big deal about the ROMs being
upgradeable and not stuck in place.  In fact if you go read the info
sheets on the new IIsi you will notice that those ROMs are upgradeable
too and the sheets make a point of this.  So even though Apple never
actualy promised that they would make ROM upgrades available, they
specificly made plans so that they (*could*) upgrade ROMs.

Besides, the upgrade we all want isn't that big a deal.  We just want
32-Bit clean ROMs so that we can run our applications in 32-Bit mode
when system 7.0 comes out.  Again making 32-Bit addressing a big deal
was Apples not ours.

Any comments from someone at Apple who realy knows something about
this issue?

Pete Hoch