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From: gdavis@primate.wisc.edu (Gary Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: HC 2.0, My first impression
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Date: 13 Oct 90 05:21:46 GMT
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From article <1990Oct10.031404.13263@chinet.chi.il.us>, by henry@chinet.chi.il.us (Henry C. Schmitt):
> Let's start this off with a caveat: I'm working with the HyperCard 2.0
> 8/31/90 release as sent to Users' Groups (I don't know if there are any
> other versions), so I only have 5 disks, no manuals.
> 
> I start by popping in the HyperCard Program disk; it has an Installer
> Script on it.  Cool, I don't have to worry about dragging everything.
> I double-click and get the infamous "Application is busy or missing"
> dialog.  Not Cool!  An Installer Script, but NO Installer.  Now I have
> 
What is the installer for? I just dragged all the files over to my hard disk
and everything worked fine. The only thing I could see that the installer
might do (other than copy the files for you) is make sure that you have 
all the fonts in your system that come in the HyperCard Fonts file on the
HyperCard disks.

> I double-click HyperCard and am immediately informed that "HyperCard
> needs more memory to run at this color setting" (I run at 256 normally).
> I check it out and find it's only got 1000K, so I up it to 2048K and try

It ran fine on my Mac II with 256 colors and 1000 K. All the stacks
worked perfectly too. Some are pretty neat like the Puzzle and the PowerTools.
All in all, I'm quite impressed by 2.0. Great job.

I have run into one peculiar anomaly, though. I opened an old stack on
an SE/30 at work and converted it to 2.0 format. There was a problem in
the info dialogs for objects. For buttons, for instance, the lines
with the objects number and id both said "Error: not enough f". I thought
this might be one of the earthy Apple engineer messages that got censored
by legal, but in another case the message read "Error: not enough free."
For other objects I got varying messages in plave of the numbers and ids.
For the card info, the id line was fine, the number line read "Card
number: Usage<sorted_container>". I later installed (by dragging) HC 2.0
on my Mac II at home and opened and converted a number of old stacks.
None of them showed the anomaly and they all worked fine. But a copy
of the problem stack showed the same problem on my home machine.

I forgot to mention that the titles in the script editor windows
were also screwed up. They consisted of a bare id number with a name
if present.

The stack seemed to work fine, though I haven't tested all its functions.

On both machines I was running 6.0.5, After dark and On Cue. The HC 2.0
was the 8/31 User Group shipment.

Gary Davis