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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
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Subject: Re: NeXT Mach (was Re: UNIX is yuck (was Re: Next intro...)
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Date: 15 Oct 90 22:49:12 GMT
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In article <4b5vB5e00UhBA=gi8V@andrew.cmu.edu> ls1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Leonard John Schultz) writes:
>On 07-Oct-90 in UNIX is yuck (was Re: Next ..
>user pfr654@csc.anu.oz.au writes:
>Why?  becaust NeXTstep is incredibly intuitive and "mac like", but has
>all of the power and customizability of Mach (unix) underneath.  Nobody
>is denying that unix is more powerful than the simplistic Mac OS. 
>Except for this one person who thinks that multitasking is all there is
>to unix.  Mach contains everything that System 7.0 is promising and
>more, and it has it NOW!  No more release dates being pushed back 6
>months.  (Did you know that the Mac OS does not support the DMA in the
>IIfx and 7.0 won't either?)

Nope, haven't heard that last bit... A/UX supports it, though.  
BTW, just when is the NeXTStation going to ship in quantity?

>Out of all of you people who have been ragging on unix, how many of you
>have actually used the NeXT and NeXTstep?  I suggest you try it.  It is
>incredibly easy to use.  You could swear that you were working on a
>Macintosh with a much nicer looking interface.  You never have to see
>the unix heritege if you don't want to.  You can play with your windows,
>icons, menus, and do simple "control panel" customizations until your
>arm fall off and never have to type something in at the command line. 
>Just as NeXT has bee tauting it, Unix for mere mortals!  Once you've
>seen one NeXT application, you've seen them all because of the common,
>consistant user interface.  And if you want to do some programming, the
>power of unix is there for the taking.  

But on the original cube, it is so SLLLOOWWWWW.  You'd swear you were using
an TIMEX-SINCLAIR emulating a Mac.  That alone outweighs much for me-- I
want a responsive interface.  When I click, I want a response-- NOW!

>That is the one thing I always hated about Mac.  It is so close ended
>and so difficult to write a simple program or utility.

With Think C or MPW 2.02, it isn't hard at all.

>That's why I am selling my mac and just put an order in for a color
>NeXTstation with 3 times the memory of a IIfx, 3 times the speed, 2
>times the hard drive space, 4 times the hard drive transfer rate, 200
>times the networking speed, 20 times the number of colors, 2 times the
>floppy size, 4/3 times the screen and printer resolution, larger screen,
>all for less than HALF the cost (at university prices).  I left out alot
>of the hardware that the NeXT has that the Mac has no equivalent for.

Tell us when you get it. I have my Mac II now.

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Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
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