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From: umcarls9@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Carlson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: New Macintoshes and Apple's Satellite Announcment
Message-ID: <1990Oct17.035703.19634@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Date: 17 Oct 90 03:57:03 GMT
References: <1990Oct16.063654.2744@isis.cs.du.edu> <9146@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> <1990Oct16.221154.20681@midway.uchicago.edu>
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In article <1990Oct16.221154.20681@midway.uchicago.edu> francis@daisy.uchicago.edu (Francis Stracke) writes:
>In article <9146@jarthur.Claremont.EDU> wilkins@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Mark Wilkins) writes:
>>Apple isn't going to stop supporting the machine entirely just because it's
>>no longer shipping.  You may not get any more system releases, but what do
>>you expect?
>
>Don't be so sure.  Look what happened to the original Macs.  Apple
>cut them off a couple of years ago; they no longer take ANY responsibility
>for anything earlier than the Plus.
>
>How long will it be before the same happens to the Plus, SE, II, IIx, IIcx?

I don't think you have to worry too much about II, IIx and IIcx.  The first
Macs were pretty well dead end-machines.  No slots, no fast i/o, no ram 
upgradability, etc.  Atleast with the IIx and IIcx you can bring them up 
to 32meg of ram, I think the II can go to 32meg as well.   Plus there slots,
SCIS i/o, etc.  A lot more expandability and therefore a lot more useful
into the feature.  
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's a thing the CI or FX,
barring speed, can do, that the II <w/pmmu> IIx and IIcx can't.
 
I wish Apple would do something like bring back the IIx board and offer
Mac II users a CHEAP upgrade to the IIx.  This would be a lot nicer than
having to buy PMMUs, and FDHD rom kits.  

 
>(I was really shocked that the x and cx were killed off.  Some people are
>going to need more than one slot, but won't want to pay ci & fx prices.)

I agree.  After I read the specs on the new machines, I said to myself
'Thanks Apple, for raising <or atleast maintaining> the value of my Mac II'
I would say my old Mac II is worth the same, if not slightly more than
the LC...I've got an FPU, PMMU socket, and 6 slots.  I can easily stick
on a Mac Recorder and an 8 bit video board.  The LC has no PMMU socket,
and I think no FPU socket or any slots at all.

Charles