Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!audiolab.UWaterloo.ca!croehrig From: croehrig@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (Chris J. Roehrig) Subject: Re: that darn ethernet question again... Message-ID: <1990Oct17.060749.25879@watserv1.waterloo.edu> Keywords: ethernet Sender: daemon@watserv1.waterloo.edu Organization: University of Waterloo References: <9037@helios.TAMU.EDU> <1990Oct14.063939.13655@midway.uchicago.edu> <1990Oct15.172148.9691@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 90 06:07:49 GMT Lines: 33 A cheap way to connect to thick ethernet is through a gateway. This isn't as expensive as it sounds. We have an old door-stop PC XT clone with two Western Digital cards (WD8003E Ethercard Plus, $250 CDN each; you should be able to get them for under $200 (US$)) running Vance Morrison's PCRoute (available via ftp from accuvax.nwu.edu in pub/pcroute). One ethercard runs thin-wire to your NeXT (and any other machines you have; the thin-wire is your own subnet). The other card is connected directly to the thickwire tranceiver drop (NOT directly to the thick-wire itself); you need a tranceiver and a drop cable. If you already have those, fine; if not they cost about $300; your network hardware guy will be happy to install one for you and bill it to your grant). You'll need Internet ID's for the NeXT, both ethernet ports on the PC, and a subnet address. The speed of the gateway is extensively documented in the docs for PCRoute. For an 4.77MHz XT, the throughput is 1.8 Mbit/sec; for a 16MHz AT, it's 4.1 Mbit/sec. Unless you are regularly doing some serious data transfer, you won't notice any lack of speed with the 4.77 MHz clunker. So if you have a thick-wire drop and a PC lying around (we got ours free from CS labs who are unloading truckloads of them), the total cost is $400-$500 and you have your own thinwire subnet. (And as an extra bonus, you don't have your network administrator screaming at you for mucking about on his net :-) ) We also have a bunch of PC's (with Ethercards) connected to the subnet running NCSA's Telnet (ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu) each of which provides a really slick multi-session terminal into our NeXT. Chris Roehrig Audio Research Group University of Waterloo, Canada