Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!batcomputer!kahn From: kahn@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Shahin Kahn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.super Subject: Re: Cray vs. PC Benchmark Message-ID: <1990Oct17.043732.20776@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Date: 17 Oct 90 04:37:32 GMT References: <38230@ut-emx.uucp> <42097@mips.mips.COM> Organization: Cornell Theory Center Lines: 22 In article <42097@mips.mips.COM> mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) writes: >SPEC as it sits, is hardly close to "the whole truth", and of course >didn't intend to be. I'd be very suspicious of anything that claimed to >be the whole truth, as opposed to a better approximation to reality. >For supercomputers, Perfect Club probably tells you more. One comment on SPEC. It is a workstation benchmark as far as I can see. For supercomputers, even Perfect is not. (Some of the codes in there may be). What is the point of running a 12 second, 16 MByte problem on a supercomputer? And Nothing, just about, scales up linearly! So it is useless to run a small version of a big problem. And, it is not always the case that you increase the dimensions and run the program again and you have a supercomputer application! At some point you need new code, new algorithm, new science. I think in some areas applications are not being developed as fast as hardware is! Can it be that too many scientists are busy making back-ups of their pc's?! Shahin. disclaimer,etc.