Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!cedman From: cedman@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman) Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals Subject: Re: Changing tty drivers (was Re: Finding Passwords) Message-ID: Date: 18 Oct 90 02:54:55 GMT References: <24752@adm.BRL.MIL> <1990Oct16.173128.7280@onion.pdx.com> <11552:Oct1721:36:1390@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Organization: non serviam Lines: 28 Nntp-Posting-Host: lynx.ps.uci.edu In-reply-to: brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu's message of 17 Oct 90 21:36:13 GMT After all the criticism that the idea of double-bell has gotten here I think I'll have to defend it. It is quite a cute idea and most criticism doesn't apply. 1. The problem with spoof programs which caused this solution to be suggested is mainly a problem of publicly accessible directly-connected terminals. 2. Such terminals are usually dumb, so that the problem of messing up file transfer protocols really doesn't exists. Dialup lines aren't (as much) threatened by this kind of hack , so they of course don't get the double bell 3. What types of terminals there are is well known to those who install double-bell protection, so that the problem of ^G meaning anything else but bell on the particular type of terminal used is really non-existent. Summary: I think it is a good and simple idea, which (in contrast to almost all other suggestions made in this group) actually would work. Carl Edman Theorectial Physicist,N.:A physicist whose | Send mail existence is postulated, to make the numbers | to balance but who is never actually observed | cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu in the laboratory. | edmanc@uciph0.ps.uci.edu