Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hplabsz!mayer From: mayer@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Niels Mayer) Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc Subject: Re: Visualization software ?? Message-ID: <6047@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: 11 Oct 90 20:48:35 GMT References: <21109@well.sf.ca.us> <1986@lupine.NCD.COM> Reply-To: mayer@hplabs.hp.com (Niels Mayer) Distribution: comp Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Software & Systems Lab, Palo Alto, CA. Lines: 42 Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: In article <1986@lupine.NCD.COM> mikeh@bryant.NCD.COM (Mike Harrigan) writes: >Hmm, don't know exactly what you're doing, but you should check out >DataViews from V.I. Corporation. You can reach them at (413) 253-3482 or >vi@vicorp.uu.net. Also check out PV~WAVE from Precision Visuals.... expensive. I saw DataViews demo'd at the last CMU SEI Affiliates symposium -- it looked really neat, but it's also quite expensive -- I recall the original poster is doing C3I, I guess he can afford it since we'll all end up paying for it through taxes. Since 3D graphics is just a hobby for me (not a part of my real job yet), I've been looking for a software platform that costs much much less than a new japanese sports-car... However ... Recently, I heard about apE 2.0 from the Ohio Supercomputer Center -- it's only $75.00 and it comes as source code that supposedly compiles a variety of computers (HP, Sun, SGI, DEC/Ultrix, IBM/Aix) and runs under Xwindows, SunView, and SGI's GL. I got a fax about this from someone that attended SIGGRAPH, and this gave a pointer to a bunch of papers (postscript format) on the environment. The address for retrieving this info via anonymous ftp is apE.osgp.osc.edu (128.146.18.18); e-mail is apE@apE.osgp.osc.edu; phone is (614)292-0006. Unfortunately, according to the README file on apE.osgp.osc.edu, apE 2.0 is not released yet because they delayed release to accomodate porting to the NeXT platform. Supposedly available real-soon-now. Has anybody used apE 2.0?? What's it like?? How's it work?? Is it a useable environment, or is it a laboratory curiosity?? I'm particularly interested in playing around with animation via a language-based graphics environment (4GL-ish). A grasp for X windows would do nicely. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Niels Mayer -- hplabs!mayer -- mayer@hplabs.hp.com Human-Computer Interaction Department Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto, CA. *