Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: bxr307@csc.anu.oz.au Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: East German aircraft. Now NATO? Message-ID: <1990Oct15.033810.12838@cbnews.att.com> Date: 15 Oct 90 03:38:10 GMT References: <1990Oct10.000459.46@cbnews.att.com> <1990Oct11.051011.29673@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military-request@att.att.com Organization: Computer Services, Australian National University Lines: 34 Approved: military@att.att.com From: bxr307@csc.anu.oz.au In article <1990Oct11.051011.29673@cbnews.att.com>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: > From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) >>From: Hubert Bartels >> Being a fan of Mil-24 helicopters, ( Hinds), I was wondering what >> has happened to East German aircraft, now that Germany has reunited... > > The German air forces have, in principle, reunited too. Details on this are > still being worked out, last I heard. Yes, the East German half still has > all its Soviet-built equipment. In fact, there was some fuss a little while > ago over MiG-29 deliveries -- the West Germans wanted to cancel them, while > the Soviets said "those were firm orders, you *will* pay for them and take > delivery". (!) At last report (that I had heard) the MiG-29's had been returned to the Soviet Union. The East Germans only had about 24 apparently and one of the the "understoods" during the re-unification talks between the East and West German military was that certain items of equipment were going to be returned to the Soviet Union. Another item which has "disappeared" as a consquence is the Su-25 Frogfoots which were operated by the East. Somehow I doubt that the Mi-24 Hinds have been left behind as well. I would presume that some sort of deal was worked out with regards to the monies paid or not paid for the equipment. However I would be surprised that all the technical information (eg user and maintenance manuals) and the pilots returned as well. As a consquence the amount of intelligence which NATO has gained about the capabilities of a lot of the latest Soviet equipment will still have been huge. Brian Ross