Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: morphy@truebalt.cco.caltech.EDU (Jones Maxime Murphy) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Newspaper Article Message-ID: <1990Oct12.214229.23575@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Date: 13 Oct 90 01:52:45 GMT References: <4836@sarah> Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 30 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu Being from a catholic background myself, I believe catholicism and feminism are fundamentally incompatible. In fact, the entire Judaeo-Christian-Islamic family of genetically related religions have several fatal flaws that render them useless for the development of spirituality in a manner unvitiated by gender bias. First of all, god is consistently referred to as male, unlike the supreme deities of many other religions. When he does choose to sire a child, he does so with no advance warning to the person involved. We now call that rape. [Actually, I believe the angel Gabriel was sent down to ask her. Isn't that what the "Anunciation" celebrates? --CLT] Most damning, however, is that god consistently prefers to talk to men. All prophets are male, as is Christ. Women are purely auxiliary, as far as god is concerned. The results of this are obvious. While women are welcome to perform, say, fundraising duties or other auxiliary functions, they are almost universally excluded from the power structure of organized Judaeo-Christian-Islamic religions. [How do you account for the presence of female priests in non Roman Catholic churches? The Methodists, Episcopalians, and others have ordained female priests. I'm not disputing your original point, but it appears that there are winds of change -- do you think that religions are capable of change? --CLT] JMM in Pasadena.