Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero!poe.jpl.nasa.gov From: larryc@poe.jpl.nasa.gov (Larry Carroll) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Diversity Message-ID: <9942@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> Date: 12 Oct 90 03:29:35 GMT Sender: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Organization: Jet Propulsion Lab, AEG/FIST Lines: 42 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org I keep hearing statements on the net like "Feminist always ...." "Feminists believe ...." That's a bunch of crap. Feminists are a very diverse group who hold a wide range of opinions. Even on abortion rights, often thought of as a shibboleth separating "real" from "fake" feminists, there are several opinions. The Socialists and the Radical Feminists (two relatively small groups which many mistakenly lump together) sometime bitterly attack each other, the Radicals accusing the Socialists of selling out because they don't support violent revolution, the Socialists accusing the Radicals of harming the movement because violence is counter to feminist thought. The Lesbian separatists oppose those (many of whom are also Lesbians) who support solidarity with feminist men. There are those who view women in a mystical, almost angelic light; others think this ridiculous. There's a group (one contingent calls itself in all seriousness the Fat Underground) that believes women should deliberately make themselves unattractive to men. Even within groups united ideologically, strong personalities not infrequently clash -- with their friends lining up on opposite sides. NOW conventions sometimes become floor shows where Roberts Rules of Order & organizational by-laws become weapons in long & arcane battles, and victory is sometimes overturned overnight by shifting backroom alliances. Sometimes these clashes become vicious. In Texas I know of a case where one woman reported another for smoking marijuana. In California a few years back three women (only one of whom was ever publicly "credited" with it) informed the police that the NOW state president was an accused murderer. (The reported reason for the betrayal was that she rejected the sexual advances of one of the women. Though there may be some truth to that, in the California community the real reason is believed to be that the three women felt she was getting too independent.) It took much time & money to vindicate the president, whose only accuser was her convicted-killer husband, whom she had left when she was a very young woman. There are also class differences: the most active feminists are usually upper- or middle-class women without young children who can afford to work half- or even full-time for the movement. Young women & men sometimes feel older ones are behind the times, or are hogging the power. And, though happily fairly rare, there are sometimes racial tensions. Larry Carroll "Takes-us" (correct pronunciation of Texas) Dancin' Fool