Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!shelby!apple!bionet!PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU!AEBAKER%CSUGREEN From: AEBAKER%CSUGREEN@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (ann baker biology dept 303 491 5307) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: geneflow:asymmetry,equilibrium Message-ID: <9010210525.AA06820@genbank.bio.net> Date: 21 Oct 90 04:19:39 GMT Sender: daemon@genbank.bio.net Lines: 30 Gene flow is likely to be asymmetric when there is a large difference in population size between two source populations. The larger population will donate more migrants than the small one usually, though exceptions may exist where very small populations are unstable because they don't have a "critical mass" to make the individuals socially cohesive. The "critical mass" idea is from a very old paper by Gilbert and Singer on Euphydryas butterflies (Am Natur 1960s I think). The asymmetry idea is from simulations I do with Len Nunney on t haplotypes and on my unpublished analyses of the rate of dispersal as a function of the rate of population growth (house mice only). Equilibrium seems to be what theoretical popgeneticists use as a stopping point for their simulations. It removes the influence of the initial starting conditions, but I have a problem with this: in house mice living in barns or homes, the habitat is often changing at the whim of the economics (price of corn, hay, eggs etc): the barn is cleaned out, the chickens or corn are sold etc: often these cleaning out periods occur every year (about 4 generations?) in house mice (Petras and Topping 1979? JMamm for example). Can equilibrium occur that quickly? No. Yet we run simulations for 200 generations or so until the equilibrium is reached. I don't know a way around this problem: the equilibrium is easily defined, the other stuff is not, though the other stuff may be a more realistic reflection of house mouse populations near human habitation. ann eileen miller baker biology department colorado state university fort collins 80523 aebaker@csugreen