Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!pacbell.com!lll-winken!tristan!loren From: loren@tristan.llnl.gov (Loren Petrich) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: What Has Traditional AI Accomplished? Message-ID: <70159@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Date: 22 Oct 90 16:58:20 GMT References: <1990Oct16.135631.6444@cbnewsj.att.com> <69929@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <3740@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Lines: 39 In article <3740@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> minsky@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes: > [that I should read _Perceptrons_...] I found the book in the Berkeley library and tried reading it. It was rather difficult to follow its arguments. I guess I should check it out and work through it VERY carefully. But the impression I get, rightly or wrongly, is that its principal conclusions are: One layer of perceptron units can only distinguish between classes of inputs separated by a hyperplane. More layers of perceptron units can distinguish between much more general classes of inputs. There exist learning rules for one layer of perceptron units, but there do not appear to be practical learning rules for more than one layer. And that was seemingly that for perceptron-like architectures. I guess some algorithm like back-propagation looks simple -- after one discovers it. But it does seem easy to generalize the two-state output of the original perceptrons to a continuous-valued output, from which the back-prop algorithm readily follows from minimizing the quantity <|actual - calculated|>. I wonder if anyone had ever considered continuous-output perceptrons in the early days of the field. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Loren Petrich, the Master Blaster: loren@sunlight.llnl.gov Since this nodename is not widely known, you may have to try: loren%sunlight.llnl.gov@star.stanford.edu