Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uw-beaver!milton!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!giga!unislc!klb From: klb@unislc.uucp (Keith L. Breinholt) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: What Has Traditional AI Accomplishe Message-ID: <1990Oct24.132505.11410@unislc.uucp> Date: 24 Oct 90 13:25:05 GMT References: <3200031@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Organization: Unisys, Unix Systems Quality Assurance Lines: 42 From article <3200031@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, by gillies@m.cs.uiuc.edu: > >> We could add to the list a host of medical instruments such as >> cat-scans (sp?) and Ultra-sounds. (Both look at internal organs >> without surgery) Then there are tools such as character readers, text >> and graphic scanners, and the nifty little barcode readers at the >> supermarket. > > It is wrong to classify individual problems as "AI". I deeply resent > this when AI researchers commit this error, as the person above has. > The work on Catscans and NMR/MRI is good physics and a good application > of known methods of exact scientific computation, period. > > Either AI is a scientific method of making computers solve problems or > it is nothing at all. To correct what you thought I said. I was not classifying anything as "AI". What I was doing was giving a list of technologies that use fruits from AI research as a common usage/practice. Everything mentioned above has benefited in one way or another. There is not an imaging device in existance (except photography equipment) that is not a benifactor of AI vision research, Catscans and NMR/MRI included. >> Our definition of AI is basically "whatever we haven't figured out how >> to do yet." As soon as AI research refines the methods, the problem >> falls out of the AI category. > > Once again, the person who wrote the above quote has made an error in > judgement. If a refinement of an AI method continues to solve a > problem (and no other methods produce superior results), then it is a > triumph of AI. I think you just made my point. Keith -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Keith L. Breinholt hellgate.utah.edu!uplherc!unislc!klb or Unisys, Unix Systems Group kbreinho@peruvian.utah.edu