Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!oberon.usc.edu!robiner From: robiner@oberon.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Testing for [] consciousness Message-ID: <27608@usc.edu> Date: 19 Oct 90 00:05:47 GMT Sender: news@usc.edu Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 21 Nntp-Posting-Host: oberon.usc.edu In article mikeb@wdl31.wdl.fac.com (Michael H Bender) writes: >In article <31@tdatirv.UUCP> sarima@tdatirv.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) writes: > > >>In short, I think the distinction you are making between 'machine' > >>and 'human' is largely artificial, it is based on a false > > >Likewise, the arguments "proving" the possibility of constructing >consciousness are equally flawed! (By the way -- how can we build something >we can't even define?) > Let's look at it another way. Suppose I tell you that the material making up my brain is not the same as yours. Unless this premise alone is enough to prove I lack consciousness, nothing else objective is left. So, prove I lack consciousness. Maybe I do, maybe I don't, but it's all subjective anyway. Why not let another machine decide if a machine has consciousness. (btw, that's what the space shuttle computers do!) =steve=