Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!gandalf.cs.cmu.edu!lindsay From: lindsay@gandalf.cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: 386 Clones Message-ID: <10833@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Date: 23 Oct 90 16:50:19 GMT Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 18 I've heard some comments lately about how hard it will be for 386 clone makers to get a debugged product to market. An example is Nick Tredennick's article in Microprocessor Report, which implies that some of the clone makers haven't any clues to rub together. But, wait a second here. There are three things they have to get right: pinout-related issues: the 286 emulation: the native mode. (They don't have to get the cycle counts "right", do they?) I would have nominated the 286 emulation as the killer, since the native mode is mostly "more of the same" with paging. But, AMD is mass-producing a perfectly good 286, and the 386's microcode can be reverse-engineered. So, what is to stop AMD (at least) from getting its 386 debugged and out? Is the pessimism only justified for the smaller houses, or have I mis-estimated where the problems lie? -- Don D.C.Lindsay