Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!know!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!brahms!phil From: phil@brahms.amd.com (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: 386 Clones Message-ID: <1990Oct26.015112.476@amd.com> Date: 26 Oct 90 01:51:12 GMT References: <10833@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Sender: usenet@amd.com (NNTP Posting) Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc; Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 21 In article <10833@pt.cs.cmu.edu> lindsay@gandalf.cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) writes: |I would have nominated the 286 emulation as the killer, since the |native mode is mostly "more of the same" with paging. But, AMD is |mass-producing a perfectly good 286, and the 386's microcode can be |reverse-engineered. So, what is to stop AMD (at least) from getting |its 386 debugged and out? Here's some more data for your query. Intel stopped delivering usable 286 manufacturing packages with the C step August 1984. AMD came to realize that they were on their own and started reverse engineering the 286 in March 1986, culminating with the introduction of the 286 S Step in Q3 1987. (the judge described Intel's deliveries Q1 1986 as "deliberately incomplete, deliberately indecipherable and delliberately unusable".) So you might believe that AMD does possess a great deal of 286 experience and expertise. -- This article contains my opinions and does not represent the views of the company.