Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!decwrl!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: schoff@uu.psi.com (Martin Schoffstall) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: A Choice, and Then a Choice Message-ID: <13760@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 18 Oct 90 05:42:09 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Reply-To: Martin Schoffstall Organization: Performance Systems International, Inc. Lines: 36 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 743, Message 1 of 11 This is enormously galling to the people who have spent large amounts of time building the US Internet over the last five to ten years, let alone the US Public Data Networks. Mostly what I see are the Europeans emulating what happened in the US several years ago: governent sponsored/controlled research&education T1 TCP/IP and "OSI", while the US begins the moves into commercial internetworks. Right now we have hundreds of Columbia students using terminal servers in Boston, Hartford, WhitePlains, NYC, Newark, DC, LA using the PSINet portion of the Internet. Rutgers has an in depth NJ system for its use, as does Merit for the state of Michigan, all of them are free to the students and in truth pretty low cost to the sites that amortize the internetworking bill. While I think Yellow Pages is nice for industry/business/home (partially why it was done in France) I don't think students are a good represenative audience, I needed to know where a couple of pizza places were because that is all I could afford. Even today as a business person, I'll use the White Pages 500 times more than I do the Yellow Pages. Hence the Internet interest in White Pages using X.500, something working today. What they had was a monopolistic situation that got a lot of terminals into a lot of places, and the continuation of a now ancient technology that in no way compares against an Xterminal which I can drive from home with a V.32/V.42bis modem, or better yet on my LAN connected to the Internet. I'm sure if we had let Bell stay in control or allowed the RBOC's to mandate the future, I'd be using a 600 baud V.52 terminal equivalent right now. Honestly, if this is the best example that they are going to cite, then there is no good reasons to even let them do more than POTS. Marty