Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!emory!wuarchive!usc!apple!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: mbw@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Martin B Weiss) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: A New Way to be COCOTted Message-ID: <13928@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 22 Oct 90 13:03:12 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Services Lines: 38 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 755, Message 9 of 11 In article <13841@accuvax.nwu.edu> 74066.2004@compuserve.com (Larry Rachman) writes: >Interesting, though, isn't it? I thought I was safe from COCOTs >because I never went near the fuzzy things, but it seems that they >come and get you even in the comfort and privacy of your own home! One thing that hasn't been addressed by the FCC NPRM and the legislation that was passed and signed by Bush (something he didn't veto for a change!) is the collect call issue. Presumably the choice of carrier should be made by the person paying for the call (that's the way economics is supposed to work, anyway). If someone is calling you collect from a COCOT or a telephone served by an AOS with whom you don't care to do business, then how do you get to choose? You are essentially stuck with the choice made by the person calling you. As a result, you can still be had by an AOS despite your best intentions! Martin Weiss Telecommunications Program, University of Pittsburgh Internet: mbw@lis.pitt.edu OR mbw@unix.cis.pitt.edu BITNET: mbw@pittvms Moderator's Note: A sent-paid call and an incoming collect call are not quite exact opposites of each other. In sent-paid, you are paying for the decisions *you* make regarding the routing of the call and its duration. In collect calls, you have agreed to pay for *the caller's* decisions. The caller 'decided to' use a COCOT. Of course, we know how that goes: he probably decided nothing, since most phone users know nothing about it to start with. He saw a phone and used it. If you tell him later that his choice of phones caused you to get a higher than expected phone bill, you embarass a friend. So I usually say nothing and go ahead and pay for it. But my trained ear is listening from the moment I answer the call: Unless I hear 'this is the AT&T operator with a collect call, etc' I make it quick and offer to call back to wherever. PAT]