Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uw-beaver!mit-eddie!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ucselx!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: gdw@groucho.att.com (Gordon D Woods) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: A New Way to be COCOTted Message-ID: <14005@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 24 Oct 90 13:01:52 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 34 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 761, Message 8 of 10 From article <13928@accuvax.nwu.edu>, by mbw@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Martin B Weiss): From Moderator's note: > decisions. The caller 'decided to' use a COCOT. Of course, we know how > that goes: he probably decided nothing, since most phone users know > nothing about it to start with. He saw a phone and used it. If you > tell him later that his choice of phones caused you to get a higher > than expected phone bill, you embarass a friend. So I usually say > nothing and go ahead and pay for it. But my trained ear is listening PAT, I can't believe your note. We are the ones who know what is happening and it is incumbent upon us to inform people and put "embarassment" aside. If we don't do it, things like defective COCOTs will endure because the public remains confused. [Moderator's Note: I'll speak out when asked to do so ... but talking to some people about relatively technical telecom stuff is a waste of time. A good many folks -- maybe most of the public -- cannot tell the difference between a telco payphone and a COCOT without looking closely, and even then, they are decieved. When COCOTs first started appearing, *I* could tell the difference easily. Now the COCOT manufacturers are taking care to make their instruments look exactly like the genuine thing; even *I* can only tell the difference sometimes by reading the instruction card in detail: if it says for Repair Service to call something other than 611, for example ... or if it gives a strange dial tone of its own, or a few other things. You expect the public to pay attention? All these years after divestiture the public still refers to 'Ma Bell' and 'the phone company'... admittedly that makes it great for business at the OCC's and the AOS snakepits; it makes it rough for the rest of us though. PAT]