Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!crdgw1!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!emory!gatech!mcnc!ecsgate!ecsvax!seals From: seals@uncecs.edu (Larry W. Seals) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: A tirade about inefficient software & systems Summary: Where did it start? Message-ID: <1990Oct25.165215.9453@uncecs.edu> Date: 25 Oct 90 16:52:15 GMT References: <9886@milton.u.washington.edu> <38697@ut-emx.uucp> Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service Lines: 35 It occurs to me that you have to look past the recent PC history to what came before. I've worked on mainframe and mini systems with bulky operating systems where the upgrades (some free, some expensive) are nothing more than fixes of the SPARs that came before. On the system I'm currently working with, we're on version 22.1.1.R3 of the Op/Sys which we recently upgraded to from vs. 22.1.1.R1. We skipped R2 because it was so buggy (R3 fixed the regression errors from R2). At least our upgrades were free. Same thing with our word processing software and our DBMS package. I agree also that building software so fat and kludgy and hoping that faster CPUs, disks and memory will make them efficient is plain stupid! My previous boss was of that school. Our company was writing test administration software to be administered to physicians either at home or at our site. He insisted that it be written in COBOL (gag!) and all developement and testing took place on P/S 2 Model 50s. When the software was demonstrated, of course it ran like the wind. What we couldn't make him understand is that not everyone has power like that at their disposal. Two years later the project is still underway (I left over a year ago because of disputes over just this issue - I advocated writing the software in C with some sort of optimization for the lowest common denominator in terms of hardware) with probably thousands of lines of COBOL code written. I can't wait to see how it runs on a plain vanilla PC or XT (I know how it runs on a 286 P/S 2 Model 30... can you say DOG? [I knew you could ;-) ]). What a waste! ********************************************************************** Wanted: low cost .sig on rental basis... Larry Seals @ Trailing Edge Software Our motto: Solving today's problems with yesterday's technology. Our credo: When it doesn't have to be the very best.