Xref: utzoo comp.org.eff.talk:414 trial.misc.legal.software:72 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!harmonica.cis.ohio-state.edu!lwh From: lwh@harmonica.cis.ohio-state.edu (Loyde W Hales) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk,trial.misc.legal.software Subject: Re: Way to fight trivial patents Message-ID: <85118@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Date: 23 Oct 90 10:50:09 GMT References: <1990Oct7.175737.12808@agate.berkeley.edu> <152362@felix.UUCP> <26987:Oct2220:27:1490@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Reply-To: Loyde W Hales Followup-To: comp.org.eff.talk Distribution: usa Organization: Ohio State University Computer and Information Science Lines: 30 In article <26987:Oct2220:27:1490@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> brnstnd@kramden.acf.nyu.edu (Dan Bernstein) writes: >In article bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes: >You do---in the United States. No other country allows patents after >publication, to my knowledge. Question: what are the definitions of "patent" and "publication" in this sentence? Specifically, suppose I file for a patent under US law. According to treaty, as I understand it, once awarded the patent is recognized by "all" countries. (Is this accurate?) This being much like the Bourne (sp?) convention with copyrighting. If I file for a patent, though, it could take several years to be awarded. In fact, in the US this is not too unusual, I understand. Does this mean I can't use my product after filing for a patent until it is awarded without losing my international claims? Afterall, it would be used (published) before the patent was awarded. Somehow this sounds wrong. -- Department of Computer and Information Science Loyde W. Hales, II The Ohio State University lwh@cis.ohio-state.edu 2036 Neil Avenue Mall, Columbus, Ohio 43210