Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!voder!pyramid!lstowell From: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm Subject: Re: Restricting IBM token-ring snooping Message-ID: <131522@pyramid.pyramid.com> Date: 23 Oct 90 23:43:07 GMT Sender: daemon@pyramid.pyramid.com Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA Lines: 27 Line monitor devices are SUPPOSED to announce their presence on the ring, but most don't. Only the newer versions from reputable manufacturers do so by actually sending the "Trace Device Present" vector. Most others do participate in Ring Poll and Neighbor Notification, so the network manager, if smart enough, can spot an unidentified station, but is not necessarily aware of any snooping.... Some "smart" MSAU's like the Star Tek and Proteon can be set to prohibit ANY new station from mechanically accessing the ring, which eliminates all but the most persistent units which could tap the data by bypassing the MSAU and the phantom drive technique entirely.... With the new TI chipset and the available C-compiler support for the Comm Processor, it would be child's play to create a non-obvious snooper....if you can de-jitter the data (sorry, couldn't resist....) sufficiently. I cannot imagine why anyone would do this... Physical security of the LAN media is quite important....if you REALLY want security, run strictly SNA protocols and use IBM's DES Encrypted RU feature (if available yet for Token Ring..) You can read the SNA headers, but no way will you get at the user data......