Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!MATHOM.CISCO.COM!BILLW From: BILLW@MATHOM.CISCO.COM (William "Chops" Westfield) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Reliable Datagram ??? Protocols Message-ID: <12632159446.18.BILLW@mathom.cisco.com> Date: 23 Oct 90 20:44:18 GMT References: <9010231728.AA03948@braden.isi.edu> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 16 If you need records, you can build a trivial framing protocol on top of TCP. There have been many examples of this... Mike Muuss' PKG, records in Sun's XDR, and Dave Clark's USP come immediately to mind. Yes, yes. This is not difficult, and is clearly the way to do things within the framework of the currently defined protocols. In fact, the cisco routers do exactly this sort of thing for running X.25 over TCP. Aesthetically, though, it bothers me to have to do the extra work of converting datagrams to streams and back when the underlying transmission scheme is almost certainly datagram based. (Hmm, is anyone running TCP over anything other than IP?) BillW -------