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From: navas@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David C. Navas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Macs etc.
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Date: 19 Oct 90 10:30:59 GMT
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Hey, we've attracted some attention ;)  Must be because we have such a great
computer [couldn't be for the conversation...]

Clark Anderson (anderson@apple.com) writes:
>It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.

A nice quote, but what if those tools are inadequate?  My father once bought a
grease gun from Sears.  More grease came out the back end than the front.
On the other hand, I don't think Mac's are inadequate writing tools -- look
how many newspaper places are using them....
However:

In article <10803@goofy.Apple.COM> lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) writes:
>The "power" is available where needed (in development systems, for example).

It's not just power, it's flexibility.

GUI's have [at least] two different uses -- they allow a broader number of
people to use them, and they allow a more gradual learning curve for
people trying to use the system.

But if I've got a 12 level directory, and I want some text out of that
12th directory -- I'll open a shell.  To shame with the iconic interface,
it just gets in my way.  I have, in a sense, graduated from the need for
the holding hand of <insert name of UI>.

My father has a Mac IIci with Microsoft Word, and an old Xerox 820-II with
Wordstar.  You can bet if we could still get that old beast to boot,
he'd be using Wordstar, not MWord.  You may debate the logic, but
there you have it.  He's no programmer, his office buys Macs almost
exclusively.  But he's already graduated Wordstar, ya'see....

>Horrors!  Those USERS just get in the way of everything.  (Too bad they're
>the ones spending the money.)

Interesting -- and I thought businesses bought computers and that the home
market was dead?  Or have strategies already been changed? ;) ;)

All meant in good humor, of course!

David Navas                                   navas@sim.berkeley.edu
"Excuse my ignorance, but I've been run over by my train of thought."  -me