Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!dptg!ulysses!andante!mit-eddie!snorkelwacker!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!lavaca.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu!sugar!peter From: peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: X (was Re: NeXT & Interface Builders) Message-ID: <6836@sugar.hackercorp.com> Date: 19 Oct 90 11:56:37 GMT References: <123395@linus.mitre.org> <2356@trlluna.trl.oz> <6828@sugar.hackercorp.com> <1990Oct19.075445.12417@engin.umich.edu> Reply-To: peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) Organization: Sugar Land Unix - Houston Lines: 32 In article <1990Oct19.075445.12417@engin.umich.edu> gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: > >> I don't really give a damn whether the computer I'm using has X or > >> Intuition or Windows. > Actually, X and Intuition are very similar. Similar how? Intuition is quite a bit higher-level than X: the current selection of intuition-supported objects is small, but with gadtools they can be increased indefinitely... and unlike X these tools will be upgradedable without rebuilding all your programs: look at requestors on a 2.0 system. Look at all the scroll bars that have automagically changed to be consistent with 2.0. The difference between 1.3 and 2.0 is at least as great as between OpenLook and Motif, and all the programs run under both! And when the program's out running computations (i.e., doing the real work you're trying to get done) the screen is still live. It's a *big* difference. > I disagree, with the Xtoolkit, it is a snap to produce stuff. All of which remains (a) large and (b) dependent on your program getting back to the screen *quickly* to handle refresh events. ALL X windows are simple- refresh! Then we get to color selections. Ever opened a color window and had all the colors of your other windows change? The screens concept is much cleaner than anything I've seen elsewhere. Yes, there's some nice stuff that's done in X. Throw enough programmers at something and you can do miracles: look at DOS! But it's been done despite the fundamental brain-damage in X, not because of it. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' .