Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!husc6!yale!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!udel!mmdf From: DUG%CZHETH5A.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: X (was Re: NeXT & Interface Builders) Message-ID: <34076@nigel.ee.udel.edu> Date: 20 Oct 90 13:36:54 GMT Sender: mmdf@ee.udel.edu Lines: 46 Comment: Mail not returnable through this path, use the list address Author: AEOLUS::NOTESMAN "Mail-To-Notes Daemon" Topic 1611.0 Time: 19-OCT-1990 19:05 ZRH Received: from PUCC by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.08A) with BSMTP id 7036; Fri, 19 Oct 90 12:17:41 EDT Received: from udel.edu by pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with TCP; Fri, 19 Oct 90 12:17:36 EDT Received: from louie.udel.edu by louie.udel.edu id ad19761; 19 Oct 90 8:11 GMT Received: from USENET by louie.udel.edu id aa19565; 19 Oct 90 3:57 EDT Received: from snow-white.ee.udel.edu by louie.udel.edu id ad19532; 19 Oct 90 3:57 EDT Received: from nigel.ee.udel.edu by snow-white.ee.udel.edu id ad02175; 19 Oct 90 7:53 GMT From: Peter da Silva Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: X (was Re: NeXT & Interface Builders) Message-ID: <6828@sugar.hackercorp.com> Date: 19 Oct 90 02:47:46 GMT Organization: Sugar Land Unix - Houston To: amiga-relay@udel.edu Sender: amiga-relay-request@udel.edu In article <2356@trlluna.trl.oz> soh@shiva.trl.oz (kam hung soh) writes: > Many people don't like X because it doesn't specify a user interface > standard. That's a new one, actually. The problem with X is that it's very low level, so each application is responsible for the entire UI. There are no system supported menus, or gadgets, or icons... in fact, the system doesn't support anything but (in Amiga terms) layers. Everything else is the responsibility of the applications. This means that X programs are very large, and very complicated. It also means that X requires a lot more horsepower from the application processor than higher level systems like MGR or NeWS. Another result? Bigger and more complex toolkits that wrap the program around the user interface. > I don't really give a damn whether the computer I'm using has X or > Intuition or Windows. You're not a programmer. You can get the same results from MS-DOS or AmigaOS,