Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!batcomputer!riley From: riley@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Daniel S. Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: board<>3000 RETRACTION-NEAT NEWSGROUP Message-ID: <1990Oct22.003343.8822@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Date: 22 Oct 90 00:33:43 GMT References: <2139@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> Organization: Cornell Theory Center Lines: 23 In article <2139@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >Nope... It was promoted as having the ability to place multiple PICs in ONE >expansion chassis _OR_ to place one PIC on the expansion bus. Look at the >earliest expansion docs. External circuitry was always required to properly >arbitrate the autoconfig operation. Minor nit--I've got the Feb. 4 1986 expansion docs in front of me, and, at that time, Commodore thought that two expansion backplanes with multiple PICs *might* be possible. There are big warnings saying that Commodore has only tested one backplane, and the timing might not work, and all the illustrated backplanes have buffers, and collision avoidance and bus arbitration circuitry. Going further back, the Nov. 25 1985 doc does mention the possibility of passing the "bus (buffered) out in daisy chain fashion." My impression is that the timing doesn't work out if you buffer the bus, and the noise gets you if you pass the unbuffered bus, so the idea was eventually abandonded. *HOWEVER*, none of this excuses the vast majority of SOTS boxes with *unbuffered* pass throughs--something C-A never even implied should work. -Dan Riley (riley@theory.tn.cornell.edu, cornell!batcomputer!riley) -Wilson Lab, Cornell University