Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!aplcen!haven!uvaarpa!vger.nsu.edu!manes From: manes@vger.nsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Future of 500 (was help on installing 1meg agnus) Message-ID: <88.27246f45@vger.nsu.edu> Date: 23 Oct 90 20:26:45 GMT References: <1990Oct13.035003.3737@isis.cs.du.edu> <90286.132554DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> <62.2719a8e6@vger.nsu.edu> <1990Oct22.020502.7545@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu> <1004@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl> <83.2722f559@vger.nsu.edu> <1007@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl> Lines: 107 In article <1007@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl>, rooijen@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl (A.J. van Rooijen) writes: > In article <83.2722f559@vger.nsu.edu> manes@vger.nsu.edu writes: >> > >>I dispute the "are no really professional programs". I consider AmigaVision, >>CEDPro, Imagine, 3d Professional, Word Perfect and Superbase to be >>equal or greater than the equivalents on the other platforms. However that >>is another subject. > > The quality is just the point I am trying to make. Potentially is the > Amiga a great computer for business. But the software is staying > behind. Take Word Perfect for example. The Amiga version does not > live up to the standard of the one running on a (beast of a) IBM > model 30. Some features are just not implemented! This is often the Tis true, some features of Word Perfect are not available for the Amiga. Perhaps that will change, certainly this is no reason to 'pan' the Amiga. > result of making a quick conversion, leaving the difficult things > out. This makes the Amiga looking bad. (Many games are also quick and Is Word Perfect your only example? Does this mean that >if< Word Perfect releases a 5.1 version for the Amiga, Commodores troubles are solved? Wiping brow... the solution is at hand. ProWrite, Excellence are quickly catching up to what Word Perfect has on the PC. > bad conversions from the Atari St). SuperBase is indeed a great General Statement. I have not games ported from the ST in a long long time. Perhaps an example. > program. Only it is using a stupid dongle. I don't know any large Err, I remember that for the longest time (and perhaps it is still true) that AutoCAD required a dongle like device. > >>Perhaps you need to define your idea of Professional. >> >>Now you see why there needs to be a seperate machine for the seperate >>individual who thinks this way. Perhaps you need to get know your >>Amiga 500 a bit more. Then look at a 3000, then come back and talk >>to me about a professional. > > I think I know a lot about the A500. I have build accelerator boards for > my A500 and written many programs in assembly and C. My personal That is indeed impressive. > opinion about the A3000 is that the difference is not very much with > the A500/A2000 range. OK, it is running a M68030 and Workbench 2.0. > The graphics are basicly the same. The resolution of the A3000 has been > increased but the number of colors not. For professional use are the Hold. Stop, that is enough! Neither the PC nor the Mac offers 24 bit color in a standard configuration. You may purchase these items from third parties, as you can NOW TODAY for the Amiga. I am so sick of hearing the 24 bit whine. For your reference, consider HAM-E, Firecracker-24, DCTV and Mimetics Framebuffer. Sure you want a new custom chip set, so do I, but blast it, be FAIR. > the A3000 still slow even with a M68030 running on 25 Mhz. Sound > has not been improved. I am afraid that the graphics and sound, Sound? Sound? You bring up sound? There is currently no computer (besides the GS) that comes with better sound chips than the current Amiga. This has been true for 5 years! > once the reason I bought the A500, is now becoming the bottle > neck of the A3000. The software situation for the A3000 is the > same as for the A500/A3000. The main advantage of an A3000 over > an A500/A2000 is speed. With PageMaker, a full conversion of Err, you left out a full 32bit bus, AMBER, etc. > WordPerfect and DBaseIV the A3000 can be a good alternative for > the IBM and MAC range. But Commodore has got to make his moves > right now because the competition is catching up in prices and > multitasking abilities. Perhaps you can 'expand' on what should be done. > This is the last thing I am saying about this subject. Do you promise? > > Greetings, > > Erwin van Breemen > The Orega Programming Group Holland -mark= +--------+ ================================================== | \/ | Mark D. Manes "Mr. AmigaVision" | /\ \/ | manes@vger.nsu.edu | / | (804) 683-2532 "Make up your own mind! - AMIGA" +--------+ ==================================================