Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!o.gp.cs.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!sk2x+ From: sk2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sun Kun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Splitting comp.sys.amiga Message-ID: Date: 24 Oct 90 03:22:19 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 71 Well, I think we only need to have one more group called comp.sys.amiga.gripes and it would just solve everyone's problems. It is not so much of a problem that people talk about unix and multimedia. It would just be a waste. I mean, just how many messages do you see that are dealing with all those topics that we are considering?? If you think it was a pain to look at the messages now, I think splitting the group will cause MORE problems than solving. If I recall correctly, more than 50% of the messages are flames to people(most notably Mark Barrett as well as anti-MB's) and flames to Commodore about NOT doing their jobs. I don't think I am the first to suggest this because I've seen some other posts that support the current configurations of the comp.sys.amiga. One thing that I would like to remind people about is that there is a thing called E-mail for your personal gripes and flames. I don't want to see your sarcastic remarks about other people's opinions. If you have a differing oppinion, post but leave name-callings and negligeble errors to email. Also, if someone makes a mistake(or a mistake in your opinion), lets NOT ALL post corrections to the posts. Most recently, we've seen the discussion of the signetics 68070. I see the error in both parties. The person that called the original poster a liar(or something along the line) could have e-mailed him telling him of his mistake(or what he preceived as one). And other people who flamed that person for being ignorant could have used the email system as well explaining that there was a 68070. Now, the original poster made a 'mistake' of NOT saying who made the chip. If I see 68xxx, I would assume it to be from Motorola and we know that such a chip does NOT exist. So, was 30 posts for that justified to tell him that you know more than the other? NO. What I suggest you doing is e-mailing the person with the apparent error and tell him to make a correction. If you have a differing opinion, post it, but NO name callings. It is just so immature thing to do. How old are we guys? If we keep the above things in perspective, I believe we can keep comp.sys.amiga a reasonably reliable source for Amiga information. When I first started reading comp.sys.amiga, it was civilized and it wasn't chaotic as it is getting nowadays. It was always informative about the Amiga and I learned alot from reading various posts. I cannot say this anymore since there are so many gripes about anything. My suggestion to all you people who whine about Commodore to stop and do something about it. Writing flames to Commodore here won't do you didly. You can start writing to the company directly and tell them how you feel. You might actually get some response back from Commodore. Just don't whine and not do anything about it. We all know how great Amigas are and what needs to be done to improve the machine even more. There, I feel MUCH better. So I am voting NO for the splitting of the comp.sys.amiga. We just need to watch what we do and get that level of respectability back into this news group. Any comments are welcome. E-mail your comments and I will post the responses if there are enough interest. Sun... ********************************************************************** Carnegie Mellon University sk2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (C)1990, Totally Cool People Society of America. a non-profit organization formed to protect the lives of the innocent against weird, barbaric, and grotesque UNCool(C) people in the world. "Anything I say or do could be used against YOU" - Yours Truly. Publisher of the Totally Cool People Society's bi-weekly Top Ten List. ********************************************************************** (Sig file v.2.2a)