Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ogicse!ucsd!ucbvax!UB.CC.UMICH.EDU!Tabakal From: Tabakal@UB.CC.UMICH.EDU Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: More ASIC news Message-ID: <6397165@ub.cc.umich.edu> Date: 20 Oct 90 01:29:22 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 45 Well, Apple may have given up (to be determined) on the GS, but some people haven't. That's why I'm glad to pass on yet another report from the field with Tony Fadell, the designer of the 25Mhtz 65816 chip. This report was in response to Jawaid Bazyar's (sp?) work on developing a multitasking OS: The algorithm and method sound great ... the only problem is that the '816 by Mensch.. the Abort doesn't work correctly for 4 instructions. So therefore no abort could be judged as correct with out alot a external logic to implement it correctly. AE tried using the pin but found the same problems we ran into with Mensch's 816. What Jawaid is asking for is not at all difficult. Here is an update... Our second rev. has been layed out.. and the masks are being made... Looks like we will have parts the first week of November to test. The other thing is that we added a new pin to the 816 to replace the E pin if necessary.. it is the Page mode pin. This pin alerts you when you will jump from aaaaxx to aaabxx or greater. This can give the GS tremendous speed increase because there is no need from extrnal bank select logic. Tony. So, keep the faith. If Apple is only interested in producing a slow //e emulation card, the market will prove them wrong. Supply and Demand -- basic Economics. Schools can't afford to buy lots of LC's with cards at $3K a piece, even at $1.8K, the probable discounted price. And, the home market isn't going to be excited by the product. The future for the Apple ][ is in upgrading current owners. Apple should realize this. Obviously, not for free. And, obviously, the product will change over time. But, super fast cpu's will keep me from moving to a 386. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Todd A. Bakal All snappy sayings aside, U of M Apple User's Group !Index will be updated Ann Arbor, Michigan ASAP or my name's not... Internet: Tabakal@ub.cc.umich.edu FTP: ummts.cc.umich.edu Tab@terminator.cc.umich.edu 35.1.1.43 (PC5:) UUCP: ...!uunet!ub.cc.umich.edu!tabakal BITnet: Tabakal@UMICHUB