Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!know!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!rodan.acs.syr.edu!jfbruno From: jfbruno@rodan.acs.syr.edu (John Bruno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Quick ST II Challenge! Message-ID: <1990Oct20.045209.21823@rodan.acs.syr.edu> Date: 20 Oct 90 04:52:09 GMT References: <58392@microsoft.UUCP> Organization: Integrated Healthcare Technologies, Inc. Lines: 107 In article <58392@microsoft.UUCP> darekm@microsoft.UUCP (Darek MIHOCKA) writes: >In article cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >>... By using a free medium (Usenet), to advertise your commercial product >>you are taking advantage of all those sites out there who pay for the >>net to operate. How about giving them a royalty from future sales to >>cover their blood, sweat and tears in keeping Usenet alive? :-) >>Hehe, if the above sounds ridiculous to you (and I suspect it does), I >>suggest you go back and re-read your post that I'm referring to for a >>REAL laugh. >> >>>- Darek >> >>Cheers, >> >>Chris >>------------------------------+--------------------------- >>Chris Mauritz |D{r det finns en |l, finns >>cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |det en plan! >>(c)All rights reserved. | >>Send flames to /dev/null | >>------------------------------+--------------------------- > >My dear pathetic Mr. Mauritz. You obviously cannot read English. My original >10K message containing the Quick ST II Challenge was never sent. I thought I >did, but I guess I didn't. Instead, I posted a much shorter message saying >that anyone who wants to find out more can reply to the message. Look, guy, no matter how you slice it, you still are using Usenet for free advertising for your product. >That way I >save a lot of bandwidth by not posting it here. I also am not emailing out >copies of the demo because it is about 150K in size and that too would waste >a lot of bandwidth. Oh gosh, I'm impressed. Why don't you PAY for your advertising, instead of using Usenet? You know, like other software publishers do? >So even though in the last few days I have received >dozens of email requests to email the demo, I am instead offering to send a >disk, AT MY EXPENSE, to anyone who wants it. I have posted the exact same offer >on Compuserve and GEnie. So I have "wasted" less bandwidth than you, who >decided to repost my entire my entire message, plus your pathetic little >mindless comments. If I were you, I'd stop posting altogether. I'm sure your ravings are turning off potential customers. I know that if I needed a product like yours, which I don't, I would DEFINITELY buy Turbo-St, I couldn't stomach giving YOU any money. (I can see you there, gritting your teeth, saying "There goes someone else, too cheap to spend money, blablabla...) >Just because this is a free network does not mean we are >limited to discussing only public domain software. That's right. It doesn't mean that you can post product promotions on Usenet either, now, does it? I can't stand it when people post promotions and ads and call them "discussions" or "announcements". > What I posted was an >announcement, similar to the announcements you will find from other commercial >software vendors on bulletin boards, or bundled in an issue of ST Report or >ZNET. No, it was a PRODUCT PROMOTION and, as such, was an inappropriate use of resources. >You obviously cannot be reasoned with since your signature directs me >to send flames to /dev/null, so if you have some problems with this go to hell. How about YOUR signature, guy, and I quote: "All views expressed are my own. If you don't like them, die." What a hypocrite! >I know it is a new concept for you to grasp: someone giving away free demos on >a disk without charging for it and no strings attached. Considering how many >people responded to my posting, and how many of them used words like "ok, >I'll bite" it proves my original statement that most people on the net are >to cheap to consider buying commercial software, and it is only by offering >it to them on a silver plate that they respond. Hasn't it ever occured to you that nobody WANTS your product? Probably not. I'm sure your product is useful to some, but surely you don't believe that everybody needs it, but is just too cheap to buy it, do you? > I accept that as a fact of >life in the Atari world, and offering a free demo is my way of satisfying >both me and the users. I could weasel out and start crying that the ST >software market is dead and hopeless, but it is not. Quick ST II is one of >the best selling pieces of software for the Atari ST, ever. That is why I >can afford to sell it for $20 and still make a healty profit. Oh, really? What the hell are you whining about then?? > So please stop trying to kill the commercial software market. Please? More mindless paranoid ravings. > If you have anything >further to say, please do so in private email and stop wasting bandwidth. > >- Darek > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Darek Mihocka All views expressed are my own. If you don't like them, die. > Branch Always Software, 14150 NE 20th St. Suite 302, Bellevue, WA 98007 >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---jb