Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!ucsd!pacbell.com!pacbell!sactoh0!unify!csusac!csuchico.edu!ekrimen From: ekrimen@csuchico.edu (Ed Krimen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Atari Wordprocessors Continued Message-ID: <1990Oct20.015633.13937@ecst.csuchico.edu> Date: 20 Oct 90 01:56:33 GMT References: <1990Oct19.215647.5331@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@ecst.csuchico.edu (USENET) Reply-To: ekrimen@cscihp.UUCP (Ed Krimen) Organization: California State University, Chico Lines: 59 - 1) Some of my fellow st'ers did not take well to my lack of - appreciation for gem. Which is fine. I can respect other people's preferences (I think :^). - My response is that gem is SLOW. text scrolling is laborious (and - please don't tell me to run quick st or turbo st. Why not? What's wrong with either of them? They offer a dramatic improvement even on an STe. I've said this before, and I'll say it again, that coming home to my STe is heaven after working on a Mac IIfx. The text drawing with TurboST or QuickST is great. Have you even seen them? - You wish to type, ie PROCESS words QUICKLY, and a window interface - is a nuisance. Geez, you can't please everybody, can you? Most people (I know this is an irrational generalization) would think that they are a luxury. I think of a couple of text editors, like Emacs, ProText, and others, which I'm sure you've heard of, that offer text edited features, but no word processing functions. Guess you're stuck. - Believe me, hitting some fkey to insert a code is far easier than - fiddling with the ruler (and faster). And for those who may think - that wind/icon/mou/pointer interfaces (the brave new world and - rebirth of man/comp relationships) has made text and cli's (the - diehard ignoramuses who refuse to catch up to the times) extinct, - may I remind you that any operating system worth its salt has a - shell. I'm a wind/icon/mou/pointer, specifically GEM, kind of person. This is why I didn't buy an IBM in 1988. But each to his own. - 4)WP 4.1 for the ST is buggy, clunky, and unreliable (this is the - OFFICIAL release version by wp corp. fully updated). Using it is a - misery, considering what it could have been. 4.2 does NOT exist (to - my knowledge), neither is WP likely to release it (or higher - versions, for that matter). I'm sorry you can't find what you're looking for. I was almost sure that WP for the ST would have fit your bill, but alas, I was wrong. Moreover, you seem to be the programming type. Why not write one and sell it? :^) I'm sure there are few other ST users like you. - Its just that the lack of choice and power on my st bugs me in this - instance. Unfortunately. On a machine who's default mode is a GUI, it would be pretty hard to imagine anything but a GUI for a word processor. I think that one reason most people (another irrational generalization, I know) bought the ST was for its easy-of-use. Luckily, for those power users who like a shell, those are available for the ST. -- ========================================================================== Ed Krimen - ekrimen@csuchico.edu - ||| SysOp, Fuji BBS 916-894-1261 Video Production Major ||| [ THIS SPACE AVAILABLE ] California State University, Chico / | \ [ LEAVE E-MAIL ]