Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!samsung!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ucla-cs!oahu.cs.ucla.edu!stephen From: stephen@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Steve Whitney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Why it is not power without price anymore? Summary: Double-standard. Message-ID: <40442@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 20 Oct 90 20:51:04 GMT References: <1990Oct19.141027.28420@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 52 Nntp-Posting-Host: oahu.cs.ucla.edu In article <1990Oct19.141027.28420@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: > >My my, aren't we testy? You neglect to mention that these prices do not >include a monitor. Besides, Jouni was speaking about POWER without the >prices. Five year old technology in a repackaged box is NOT power. [Ranting about lack of power in STs deleted] [He continues to say taht you can't do anything with a 512k St w/o hard disk.] >Ahem, you CAN buy a Mac Classic with a 1.2 meg disk drive, 1 meg RAM >with its own little monitor for $749 (Computer Era in NYC). You get >a ready to use system (keyboard included too) for this with a friendlier >OS and more software support. > So, Chris, you complain about repackaged the STE as 5 year old technology and then suggest a Mac Classic?!? You also said that an ST system w/o hard disk was useless. At least an ST won't make you swap disks every two minutes to load in another hunk of the operating system. True, with the exception of the stereo sound, the STE is basically a slightly faster (Blitter, TOS 1.6) ST, but the Mac Classic is a slightly faster original (128k) Mac with more memory. Also, please note that you can bump an STE up form 1 Meg to 4 Meg for about $200. I did so with mine. I'm not going to get into the OS debate here, but a floppy based ST system is definitely useful. Unless you need to do a lot of compiled programming or a lot of heavy stuff, STs are perfectly useful with only a floppy. Your comments about the STs needing a monitor and the Mac CLassic coming with one are valid. > >Cheers, > >Chris > >------------------------------+--------------------------- >Chris Mauritz |D{r det finns en |l, finns >cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |det en plan! >(c)All rights reserved. | >Send flames to /dev/null | >------------------------------+--------------------------- -- Steve Whitney "It's never _really_ the last minute" (())_-_(()) UCLA Comp. Sci. Grad. Student | (* *) | Internet: stephen@cs.ucla.edu UCLA Bruin--> { \_@_/ } GEnie: S.WHITNEY `-----'