Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!NSTN.NS.CA!cs.dal.ca!silvert From: silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: standards for windowing software? Message-ID: <1990Oct20.123109.7287@cs.dal.ca> Date: 20 Oct 90 12:31:09 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Habitat Ecology Div., Bedford Inst. of Oceanography Lines: 26 I'd appreciate it if anyone could clarify a confusing dialogue I've been having with a local HP salesman about the way some software works in windows. I'm in the market for a Unix workstation and have been looking at the HP 400 series machines. Working with VUE I discovered that programs like vi and more assume a 24x80 window and won't adjust to work with any other size (for example, with a longer window they use only the top 24 lines). I commented that this seemed like a pretty serious shortcoming. The salesman just contacted me and said that he spoke to HP's software engineers, and they claim that by doing this HP is maintaining some kind of standard. Software that adjusts to the actual window size is in their opinion "non-standard". Can anyone explain this to me? Since vi and more get the screen size from termcap or terminfo when they load, what is nonstandard about getting the size of a window as well, which is after all a virtual terminal? I can understand not adjusting to a resized window, but when you load a program it seems to me it should use the window you are in. -- William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2. Tel. (902)426-1577 UUCP=..!{uunet|watmath}!dalcs!biomel!bill BITNET=bill%biomel%dalcs@dalac InterNet=bill%biomel@cs.dal.ca