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From: dave@dptechno.UUCP (Dave Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: VUE and OpenLook Apps
Keywords: Mac attack
Message-ID: <589@dptechno.UUCP>
Date: 22 Oct 90 17:28:13 GMT
References: <38@gauss.mmlai.UUCP>
Reply-To: dave@dptechno.UUCP (Dave Lee)
Organization: D.P. Technology Corp. Camarillo California
Lines: 40

In article <38@gauss.mmlai.UUCP> burzio@mmlai.UUCP (Tony Burzio) writes:
>Some people have written to me suggesting that we get HPs
>new VUE window manager to get all the nifty OpenLook-like
<stuff deleted>...
>normal X.  Would Vue be as buggy?  The demo I saw indicates
>it may well be...

Well, I dont know about buggy, but the first thing I did when I got my 
400 was turn off vue.  I just dont like waiting > 2 minutes for 
a login prompt, then another 2 for my csh to run.
And the size of vue + friends is enormous 

size /usr/bin/X11/vue* sez ...

/usr/bin/X11/vuefile: 1145544 + 175564 + 75412 = 1396520
/usr/bin/X11/vuehelp: 1024104 + 164768 + 73584 = 1262456
/usr/bin/X11/vuestyle: 1074828 + 182640 + 75940 = 1333408
/usr/bin/X11/vuewm: 1211464 + 191236 + 73024 = 1475724

No wonder my little 8 megs arn't enough to run even the window manager
without swapping/pagging like christmas shopping....

I guess the official answer is .... get that ram !!!

Give me uwm any day.

Just one positive note, those fancy login screens do look nice !!!
But, I'd rather get a quick  "ugly" (read simple) login than wait
forever for a bunch of star wars effects.


>Oh well, off to twist my boss's arm to scrape up the $5000 for
>UIMX, plus maybe VUE and Softbench and...  I can hear him now,

Hold on here!  Does this mean that Softbench requires VUE ?
Please someone, say this isn't so !
 
-- 
Dave Lee
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